1 00:00:00,542 --> 00:00:04,542 Something came out of the sky and hit the ground. 2 00:00:04,542 --> 00:00:12,543 In front of several eyewitnesses, a burning object crashes to Earth. 3 00:00:12,543 --> 00:00:15,544 There's this round, flames coming off the front. 4 00:00:15,544 --> 00:00:20,544 And over 2,000 miles away, another strange impact. 5 00:00:20,544 --> 00:00:23,545 He said nobody goes down in there with us. 6 00:00:26,545 --> 00:00:29,545 Technology reveals clues at one site. 7 00:00:29,545 --> 00:00:32,546 It's not natural. That is definitely not natural. 8 00:00:32,546 --> 00:00:35,546 While reports of men in black surround the other. 9 00:00:35,546 --> 00:00:38,546 They worked for an agency I had never heard of before. 10 00:00:38,546 --> 00:00:43,547 Who or what is crashing outside of these communities? 11 00:00:43,547 --> 00:00:46,547 Would you say this thing was under intelligent control then? 12 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:48,548 It had to be. 13 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:51,548 And what does our own government know about them? 14 00:00:51,548 --> 00:00:54,548 I don't see how a military could possibly cover that up. 15 00:00:54,548 --> 00:00:58,549 This is case number 65303. 16 00:00:58,549 --> 00:01:00,549 Alien crashes. 17 00:01:00,549 --> 00:01:03,549 Whatever it was, they wanted it back. 18 00:01:16,551 --> 00:01:21,552 I looked up and I saw an object passing to the south that lit up the area. 19 00:01:21,552 --> 00:01:26,552 May 14, 2008, Needles, California. 20 00:01:26,552 --> 00:01:30,553 In the early morning darkness at approximately 3 a.m., 21 00:01:30,553 --> 00:01:34,553 a local fisherman claims to see something he will never forget. 22 00:01:39,554 --> 00:01:44,554 A turquoise ball of fire suddenly lights up the Colorado River. 23 00:01:44,554 --> 00:01:48,555 Seconds later, it crashes into the desert. 24 00:01:49,555 --> 00:01:52,555 Some initially think it's just a meteor, 25 00:01:52,555 --> 00:01:55,556 but can't explain the strange color. 26 00:01:55,556 --> 00:01:58,556 And the incident isn't over yet. 27 00:01:58,556 --> 00:02:03,556 Within moments, five unmarked helicopters enter the area. 28 00:02:03,556 --> 00:02:06,557 But these aren't just any helicopters. 29 00:02:06,557 --> 00:02:09,557 They're double-rotor military models. 30 00:02:09,557 --> 00:02:12,558 And one has a large sky crane. 31 00:02:12,558 --> 00:02:15,558 Soon after, witnesses see the armada leaving, 32 00:02:15,558 --> 00:02:18,558 and it's carrying something. 33 00:02:18,558 --> 00:02:21,559 The object, according to witnesses, 34 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:25,559 is around 30 feet long and bulky like a tanker truck. 35 00:02:25,559 --> 00:02:28,559 But there's something else. 36 00:02:28,559 --> 00:02:32,560 It's still burning with a bright turquoise glow. 37 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,561 There seems to be a common witness testimony involving military presence. 38 00:02:41,561 --> 00:02:45,561 The military coming in and apparently removing or cleansing the area. 39 00:02:45,561 --> 00:02:49,562 The military moves in hard, moves in fast. 40 00:02:49,562 --> 00:02:53,562 Helicopters come in and yank out whatever crashed. 41 00:02:54,562 --> 00:02:57,563 Needles are still under investigation. 42 00:02:57,563 --> 00:02:59,563 We don't know exactly where the crash site is, 43 00:02:59,563 --> 00:03:01,563 but we do know that a crash occurred. 44 00:03:01,563 --> 00:03:05,564 And we'll be trying to find out where that site is and see what happened. 45 00:03:06,564 --> 00:03:10,564 The search in Needles starts with several breaking leads. 46 00:03:10,564 --> 00:03:14,565 Some claim that hidden somewhere in the dense desert brush 47 00:03:14,565 --> 00:03:17,565 is proof of whatever crashed here. 48 00:03:18,565 --> 00:03:23,566 Dr. Ted Ackworth will attempt to pinpoint where the object came down. 49 00:03:23,566 --> 00:03:26,566 You've got vehicles crash landing into Earth. 50 00:03:26,566 --> 00:03:28,566 You should be able to find physical evidence, 51 00:03:28,566 --> 00:03:31,567 hard physical scientific evidence. 52 00:03:31,567 --> 00:03:35,567 Pat Uskert will head down the river in search of the crash site. 53 00:03:35,567 --> 00:03:39,568 As a UFO investigator, this is a chance for me to dig into the ground 54 00:03:39,568 --> 00:03:41,568 and maybe turn up some answers. 55 00:03:41,568 --> 00:03:44,568 And Bill Burns will meet with eyewitnesses 56 00:03:44,568 --> 00:03:47,569 who saw the entire event unfold. 57 00:03:47,569 --> 00:03:50,569 We're going to find out why the military comes in 58 00:03:50,569 --> 00:03:52,569 and denies anything ever happened. 59 00:03:57,570 --> 00:03:59,570 The investigation is underway. 60 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:04,571 The investigation begins at Needles KT-OX radio, 61 00:04:04,571 --> 00:04:08,571 where Bill and Pat meet station owner David Hayes. 62 00:04:08,571 --> 00:04:14,572 We find ourselves trying to figure out what happened on May 14th. 63 00:04:14,572 --> 00:04:16,572 In studio with Bill Burns, Pat Uskert, 64 00:04:16,572 --> 00:04:22,573 if you have any information on the incident of May 14th on that morning. 65 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:26,573 According to Hayes, the morning following the alleged UFO crash, 66 00:04:26,573 --> 00:04:29,574 listeners begin calling in reports. 67 00:04:29,574 --> 00:04:32,574 And the calls are still coming in. 68 00:04:36,574 --> 00:04:40,575 Let's try a phone call, guys. Call or you're live on 1340. 69 00:04:40,575 --> 00:04:42,575 It was coming down fast, but at an angle. 70 00:04:42,575 --> 00:04:44,575 Did you notice a shape to the object? 71 00:04:44,575 --> 00:04:48,576 Yeah, it almost looked like a huge meteorite from where I was. 72 00:04:48,576 --> 00:04:52,576 That's why I had expected to hear an explosion when I hit it. 73 00:04:53,576 --> 00:04:56,577 While some describe the object as a meteorite, 74 00:04:56,577 --> 00:05:00,577 hardly any believe that's the case after what happened next. 75 00:05:00,577 --> 00:05:03,578 I think something came out of the sky and it was retrieved 76 00:05:03,578 --> 00:05:06,578 and I don't have any idea what it was. 77 00:05:06,578 --> 00:05:08,578 They were here to recover it so quickly. 78 00:05:08,578 --> 00:05:10,578 And how quickly was that, by the way? 79 00:05:10,578 --> 00:05:12,579 I was told within the first 20 minutes. 80 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:13,579 Wow. 81 00:05:13,579 --> 00:05:16,579 Do you think they were tracking it if it's that quick? 82 00:05:16,579 --> 00:05:17,579 I think you would have to be. 83 00:05:17,579 --> 00:05:19,580 I don't think you could get here that quickly 84 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:22,580 unless you were staged, ready to go, knowing it was coming down. 85 00:05:22,580 --> 00:05:26,580 But few claim to have seen the actual crash 86 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:31,581 or are afraid to admit it because of the military's response. 87 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:34,581 I noticed some vehicles coming off the freeway. 88 00:05:34,581 --> 00:05:36,582 And one of them was incredibly strange. 89 00:05:36,582 --> 00:05:38,582 On the back with antennas and domes, 90 00:05:38,582 --> 00:05:41,582 the front license plate was U.S. government 91 00:05:41,582 --> 00:05:45,583 and with blacked out windows with a guy who was staring at me. 92 00:05:45,583 --> 00:05:51,583 Hayes says he later saw the same vehicles outside the radio station, watching. 93 00:05:51,583 --> 00:05:55,584 It was actually parked about 100 yards in the station. 94 00:05:55,584 --> 00:05:59,584 And I'm not quite sure, but the kind of equipment 95 00:05:59,584 --> 00:06:02,585 and the kind of vehicles they were in obviously were very high-tech, 96 00:06:02,585 --> 00:06:05,585 electronic possible surveillance. 97 00:06:08,585 --> 00:06:12,586 But surveillance vehicles are not the only mysterious presence. 98 00:06:12,586 --> 00:06:15,586 The afternoon following the crash, 99 00:06:15,586 --> 00:06:20,587 people see strange unmarked planes arriving at a local airport. 100 00:06:20,587 --> 00:06:23,587 They're plain white with a red stripe down the side, 101 00:06:23,587 --> 00:06:27,588 and to some, they are very familiar. 102 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:30,588 The other intriguing part of this story is the Janet flights. 103 00:06:30,588 --> 00:06:33,588 We had had a report that there was these flights coming in and out 104 00:06:33,588 --> 00:06:36,589 of the International Airport that morning. 105 00:06:36,589 --> 00:06:39,589 Janet is not the name of an official airline. 106 00:06:39,589 --> 00:06:44,590 It is a call sign assigned to these unmarked white jets with the red stripe, 107 00:06:44,590 --> 00:06:47,590 allegedly seen since the 1970s. 108 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:49,590 This is one of these flights, 109 00:06:49,590 --> 00:06:54,591 seen at the far end of Las Vegas' McCarran International Airport. 110 00:06:54,591 --> 00:06:57,591 Janet flights are believed to carry defense workers 111 00:06:57,591 --> 00:07:00,591 to several notoriously isolated locations, 112 00:07:00,591 --> 00:07:04,592 including Area 51. 113 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:08,592 But why are they being seen in needles 114 00:07:08,592 --> 00:07:12,593 the day following the reported UFO crash? 115 00:07:14,593 --> 00:07:17,593 Bill heads to Laughlin Bullhead Airport 116 00:07:17,593 --> 00:07:22,594 and meets the manager, David Gaines, to see if he can find the answer. 117 00:07:22,594 --> 00:07:24,594 Government planes do come in here from time to time. 118 00:07:24,594 --> 00:07:26,594 That is correct, yes. 119 00:07:26,594 --> 00:07:28,595 Primarily, they're military aircraft. 120 00:07:28,595 --> 00:07:33,595 Have you ever seen aircraft from an airline known as Janet Airlines? 121 00:07:33,595 --> 00:07:34,595 No. 122 00:07:34,595 --> 00:07:39,596 Have you ever seen aircraft coming in, covert aircraft, 123 00:07:39,596 --> 00:07:42,596 white, maybe with red bands on them, 124 00:07:42,596 --> 00:07:44,597 maybe blacked out windows for passengers? 125 00:07:44,597 --> 00:07:45,597 No. 126 00:07:47,597 --> 00:07:51,597 You never heard of this operation, you don't know anything about it. 127 00:07:51,597 --> 00:07:53,598 I could give no credence to it ever happening, 128 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:56,598 because to our knowledge it didn't happen here. 129 00:07:57,598 --> 00:07:59,598 If you'd seen that, 130 00:08:00,598 --> 00:08:04,599 and you had been ordered not to divulge that they use this airport, 131 00:08:04,599 --> 00:08:06,599 what would you tell me? 132 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:10,600 I would tell you that no aircraft have ever been here of that nature. 133 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,600 We've never seen any. 134 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,601 The witnesses said that on May 14th, 135 00:08:21,601 --> 00:08:25,601 a Janet plane did land there under the cover of darkness. 136 00:08:25,601 --> 00:08:29,602 David Gaines said, never happen again. 137 00:08:34,602 --> 00:08:37,603 With witnesses at odds over what happened that day, 138 00:08:37,603 --> 00:08:41,603 the best way to find proof may lie in the vast desert. 139 00:08:41,603 --> 00:08:45,604 Pat is prepping an expedition down the Colorado River, 140 00:08:45,604 --> 00:08:49,604 his goal to find the actual crash site. 141 00:08:50,604 --> 00:08:53,605 We're bringing in archaeologist Garth Baldwin, 142 00:08:53,605 --> 00:08:57,605 he'll be able to differentiate between just regular ground erosion 143 00:08:57,605 --> 00:09:00,606 and the impact of this object. 144 00:09:01,606 --> 00:09:04,606 But finding it won't be easy. 145 00:09:04,606 --> 00:09:06,606 The vegetation in this area is pretty dense. 146 00:09:06,606 --> 00:09:09,607 There's some trails we're going to use to get to the clearings that are out there 147 00:09:09,607 --> 00:09:13,607 and maybe find some of the indications of a burn or an impact. 148 00:09:13,607 --> 00:09:16,607 If things are disrupted, it should be pretty apparent. 149 00:09:18,608 --> 00:09:21,608 While searching the thick brush will prove formidable, 150 00:09:21,608 --> 00:09:24,608 a new development could aid the search. 151 00:09:24,608 --> 00:09:28,609 A witness who heard the radio program has come forward 152 00:09:28,609 --> 00:09:32,609 and he has a general idea of where the object crashed. 153 00:09:32,609 --> 00:09:35,610 His name is Frank Costigan. 154 00:09:36,610 --> 00:09:39,610 About a little after three in the morning, 155 00:09:39,610 --> 00:09:41,610 I came out to hunt for my cat. 156 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:43,611 All of a sudden the ground here lit up. 157 00:09:43,611 --> 00:09:47,611 Not like bright sun or bright moon, but enough to make me look up. 158 00:09:51,612 --> 00:09:54,612 Frank has an incredible background with controlled flights. 159 00:09:54,612 --> 00:09:57,612 Though he now lives in needles, 160 00:09:57,612 --> 00:10:01,613 he used to be chief of police at Los Angeles International Airport. 161 00:10:03,613 --> 00:10:05,613 Could you tell me the shape of it? 162 00:10:05,613 --> 00:10:08,614 It was round, flames coming off the front. 163 00:10:08,614 --> 00:10:11,614 It was blue and turquoise. 164 00:10:11,614 --> 00:10:15,614 I'd say five to six times longer than it was white. 165 00:10:15,614 --> 00:10:19,615 I thought I'd hear a sonic boom when it slowed down to the speed of sound. 166 00:10:19,615 --> 00:10:21,615 Did you hear a crash? 167 00:10:21,615 --> 00:10:23,615 Didn't hear a thing. 168 00:10:27,616 --> 00:10:30,616 Costigan claims he doesn't hear anything 169 00:10:30,616 --> 00:10:34,617 because the descending UFO disappears over the horizon to the south. 170 00:10:34,617 --> 00:10:39,617 It crosses right over the Colorado River Bend, north of Topic. 171 00:10:40,617 --> 00:10:42,618 But from what he is able to see, 172 00:10:42,618 --> 00:10:46,618 Costigan believes this couldn't be anything ordinary. 173 00:10:47,618 --> 00:10:49,618 You worked at LAX, correct? 174 00:10:49,618 --> 00:10:51,619 Yes, I was chief of police. 175 00:10:51,619 --> 00:10:54,619 I was also superintendent of airport operations. 176 00:10:54,619 --> 00:10:58,619 Was this object anything like you'd ever seen before in your experiences? 177 00:10:58,619 --> 00:11:01,620 Nothing commercial, nothing private. 178 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:04,620 And nothing I'd seen in the military. 179 00:11:07,620 --> 00:11:12,621 It had to be something that was a controlled flight of some sort that maybe went haywire. 180 00:11:12,621 --> 00:11:14,621 That's my opinion. 181 00:11:17,622 --> 00:11:21,622 Yet if this craft was at one time under control, 182 00:11:21,622 --> 00:11:25,623 who was guiding it and where did it come from? 183 00:11:25,623 --> 00:11:30,623 The desert outside of Needles is ringed by military bases and test facilities. 184 00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:34,624 To the northwest sits the China Lake Naval Range. 185 00:11:34,624 --> 00:11:39,624 To the west are both the armies Fort Irwin and the Marine Base at 29 Palms. 186 00:11:39,624 --> 00:11:42,625 To the south is Yuma Proving Ground, 187 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:46,625 where the Army test fires long range experimental artillery. 188 00:11:46,625 --> 00:11:49,625 And of course, most intriguing of all, 189 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:53,626 to the north of Needles is Area 51. 190 00:11:55,626 --> 00:12:02,627 In other words, we're standing right here in the middle of a military test area hotspot, 191 00:12:02,627 --> 00:12:10,628 where test aircraft, some things that are like beyond what we even dream of, are being flown. 192 00:12:12,628 --> 00:12:14,628 Two theories are possible. 193 00:12:14,628 --> 00:12:18,629 One, that it was an alien vehicle. 194 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:21,629 Two, that it was one of ours. 195 00:12:21,629 --> 00:12:27,630 The answer may lie with a witness who claims he heard the impact. 196 00:12:27,630 --> 00:12:30,630 I looked up and that's when it came in. 197 00:12:35,631 --> 00:12:40,631 It kind of went through a cloud and came out and there was another one directly behind this. 198 00:12:40,631 --> 00:12:48,632 On a quiet morning in May of 2008, something crashes in the desert outside of Needles, California. 199 00:12:48,632 --> 00:12:56,633 Multiple witnesses watch as a turquoise blue object is carried away by military helicopters. 200 00:12:56,633 --> 00:13:02,634 But there's more to the story and it may be the key to understanding what's going on. 201 00:13:02,634 --> 00:13:06,634 All of this has happened before. 202 00:13:07,635 --> 00:13:16,636 In July 1947, another desert crash brings the small town of Roswell, New Mexico to worldwide attention. 203 00:13:16,636 --> 00:13:22,636 The military's announcement that they have recovered a flying disk shocks the world. 204 00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:27,637 Allegedly, the nearby Army airfield sends personnel to clean up the crash site 205 00:13:27,637 --> 00:13:31,637 and instructs workers to leave no evidence behind. 206 00:13:32,638 --> 00:13:39,638 Days later, the military changes its story, attributing the crash to a weather balloon. 207 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:51,640 Now in Needles, the team has located a key eyewitness who agrees to speak with the investigation on one condition, 208 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,640 that his real name not be used. 209 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:04,641 The witness, known only as Bob, arranges a meeting on the Colorado River, near where he saw the object on May 14th. 210 00:14:08,642 --> 00:14:12,642 As I was sitting on the boat fishing at 3 o'clock in the morning, the whole front of the boat lit up. 211 00:14:12,642 --> 00:14:20,643 I looked up and I saw a bright turquoise blue something falling out of the sky. 212 00:14:21,643 --> 00:14:28,644 It came straight across from one side to the other and it hit. 213 00:14:28,644 --> 00:14:31,644 It just kind of made a thump. 214 00:14:31,644 --> 00:14:33,645 Where did it impact? 215 00:14:33,645 --> 00:14:40,646 Just west of my position, maybe 200 yards from my boat, in between the railroad tracks and the river. 216 00:14:43,646 --> 00:14:48,646 Bob claims that within 15 minutes, military helicopters appeared. 217 00:14:48,646 --> 00:14:53,647 And almost immediately after the first helicopter showed up, there was a second and then a third. 218 00:14:53,647 --> 00:14:55,647 And that's when the big one came overhead. 219 00:14:55,647 --> 00:15:01,648 That thing came circled over my boat, went to the site, dropped out of sight for a few moments, 220 00:15:01,648 --> 00:15:04,648 and the next thing I know, it was up and flying. 221 00:15:06,649 --> 00:15:15,650 Bob not only sees the armada of helicopters arrive, but their return trip with the alleged UFO in tow. 222 00:15:15,650 --> 00:15:18,650 Did you see the object being lifted on the skyhawk? 223 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:21,650 Yes, sir. That's where I saw the shape. 224 00:15:21,650 --> 00:15:26,651 Not only was it well lit by the other helicopters, they were shining their lights on it. 225 00:15:26,651 --> 00:15:29,651 It was still very hot. 226 00:15:33,652 --> 00:15:40,653 Both Bob and Frank Costigan's testimony say that the object may be in the area of the desert closest to the river. 227 00:15:42,653 --> 00:15:44,653 The investigation sets off. 228 00:15:46,653 --> 00:15:52,654 Archaeologist Garth Baldwin will be looking for several telltale signs. 229 00:15:52,654 --> 00:15:58,655 There should be enough of an indication of an impact of the signs that Bob talked about. 230 00:15:58,655 --> 00:16:04,655 There should be some displacement of soil marked by a change in the sand, changing the texture of the ground. 231 00:16:04,655 --> 00:16:13,656 The sage grows very slowly, the grass grows very slowly, so if it's disturbed in any way, it's going to be obvious. 232 00:16:13,656 --> 00:16:19,657 We might get lucky, because if there was an object that crashed there, I don't see how the military could possibly cover that up. 233 00:16:22,658 --> 00:16:25,658 But finding the actual site will prove difficult. 234 00:16:25,658 --> 00:16:29,658 Thick desert sagebrush blankets this entire area. 235 00:16:29,658 --> 00:16:34,659 The sagebrush will make an impact site hard to spot. 236 00:16:34,659 --> 00:16:37,659 But there's a backup plan in place. 237 00:16:37,659 --> 00:16:40,660 An eye in the sky. 238 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:50,661 The ultralight will be rigged with a high definition camera. 239 00:16:50,661 --> 00:17:01,662 As it searches from the air, Pat and Garth will follow on land, looking for any trace signs near the river, while Ted and Bill will retrace Bob's movements from the water. 240 00:17:01,662 --> 00:17:06,663 If we think we can get relatively close to the spot, just let us know and we'll call on the ultralight. 241 00:17:06,663 --> 00:17:10,663 They can help us from the air, see anything that might be on the ground that would be invisible. 242 00:17:10,663 --> 00:17:13,664 We'll get you in the general area. 243 00:17:25,665 --> 00:17:29,665 After nearly an hour, Bob sees something. 244 00:17:29,665 --> 00:17:31,666 See where the brush comes all the way to the water? 245 00:17:31,666 --> 00:17:32,666 Yeah. 246 00:17:32,666 --> 00:17:33,666 That's where. 247 00:17:33,666 --> 00:17:35,666 We've got to be real close. 248 00:17:41,667 --> 00:17:47,668 He recognizes some landmarks, power lines and a bend in the river up ahead. 249 00:17:47,668 --> 00:17:51,668 I see the train trestle there, so you're sure that this side of the... 250 00:17:51,668 --> 00:17:54,668 One of the things that makes me pretty sure we're in the right spot. 251 00:17:57,669 --> 00:18:01,669 The ultralight is called in for aerial support. 252 00:18:02,669 --> 00:18:06,670 After a few passes, the ultralight hits paydirt. 253 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:15,671 Our pilot Glenn did say there was a burned area south of here. 254 00:18:15,671 --> 00:18:18,671 Now that sort of corresponds with what you saw, right Bob? 255 00:18:18,671 --> 00:18:19,671 That's correct. 256 00:18:19,671 --> 00:18:21,672 Somewhere in this position right here. 257 00:18:21,672 --> 00:18:23,672 Do south of us. 258 00:18:23,672 --> 00:18:27,672 The burns could be physical remnants of the flaming iron. 259 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:32,673 The burns could be physical remnants of the flaming objects crash landing. 260 00:18:36,673 --> 00:18:42,674 If we do S-trans-X, you know, walking in an S, lazy S sort of pattern and teams of two, 261 00:18:42,674 --> 00:18:46,674 20 to 30 meters apart, we'll cover a lot of ground pretty quickly. 262 00:18:46,674 --> 00:18:49,675 So why don't you guys start there? We'll start there and cross paths. 263 00:18:49,675 --> 00:18:52,675 We better move. We don't have a lot of daylight left. 264 00:18:58,676 --> 00:19:05,677 But before they get to the burn site, Ted and Bill find another possible sign of a crash. 265 00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:06,677 Over there. 266 00:19:06,677 --> 00:19:07,677 Check it out. 267 00:19:07,677 --> 00:19:09,677 That's about the size of what we're looking for. 268 00:19:09,677 --> 00:19:10,677 Exactly. 269 00:19:13,678 --> 00:19:17,678 So this is really curious at how this dirt is all thrown up, right? 270 00:19:17,678 --> 00:19:21,679 I mean this is about the size of a berm or a crater that you might expect. 271 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:26,679 It's not so much in a crater form except it's in a very small area. 272 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:33,680 So if something really landed and threw dirt up in front of it, it would be a dune or a berm just like this. 273 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Actually, if you look at it, it's almost a bit of a horseshoe coming in from that direction. 274 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,681 It's fascinating. 275 00:19:38,681 --> 00:19:41,681 And that's the direction that Bob described the object coming out of. 276 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:42,681 That's right. 277 00:19:46,682 --> 00:19:49,682 Ted brings in Garth for his opinion. 278 00:19:50,682 --> 00:19:56,683 I don't see any direct impact where it would have obliterated the living vegetation and then allowed everything else to live. 279 00:19:56,683 --> 00:19:58,683 I mean, I don't see an impact. 280 00:19:58,683 --> 00:19:59,683 I don't see an impact. 281 00:20:04,684 --> 00:20:07,684 But the burn site is still further inland. 282 00:20:10,684 --> 00:20:12,685 A few hours later, 283 00:20:14,685 --> 00:20:16,685 it comes into view. 284 00:20:17,685 --> 00:20:19,685 Look at how burned this area is. 285 00:20:19,685 --> 00:20:22,686 We've got burned stuff all over the place. 286 00:20:22,686 --> 00:20:28,686 And Bob did say that when they extracted this object from the ground, this thing was still glowing. 287 00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,687 But he described it as landing with a thud and not an explosion. 288 00:20:32,687 --> 00:20:33,687 Exactly. 289 00:20:33,687 --> 00:20:36,687 So that kind of argues against some kind of fire. 290 00:20:36,687 --> 00:20:40,688 But Garth has other reasons for questioning this site. 291 00:20:40,688 --> 00:20:43,688 There's little patches of burned stuff probably from wildland fires. 292 00:20:43,688 --> 00:20:46,689 We've got a lot of burn trees here and over there. 293 00:20:46,689 --> 00:20:48,689 So, I mean, I think that's all natural. 294 00:20:48,689 --> 00:20:53,689 There's live vegetation all around it, dry vegetation all around it, old dry vegetation all around it. 295 00:20:53,689 --> 00:20:58,690 So that would have caught fire had this been the flaming impact that they'd said. 296 00:21:05,691 --> 00:21:07,691 With no physical evidence found, 297 00:21:07,691 --> 00:21:11,692 the ground search hasn't been able to verify Bob's location. 298 00:21:11,692 --> 00:21:13,692 But with so much ground to cover, 299 00:21:13,692 --> 00:21:18,692 the needle's crash site might still be hidden somewhere in the brush. 300 00:21:20,693 --> 00:21:23,693 This really isn't as easy as we thought it was. 301 00:21:23,693 --> 00:21:27,693 Our pilot did spot burned areas from the air. 302 00:21:27,693 --> 00:21:30,694 And we went to those burned areas and we looked at them. 303 00:21:30,694 --> 00:21:32,694 No evidence of impact. 304 00:21:32,694 --> 00:21:34,694 But we're going to press it. 305 00:21:34,694 --> 00:21:36,694 No evidence of impact. 306 00:21:36,694 --> 00:21:39,695 But we're going to press on further and see what we can find. 307 00:21:42,695 --> 00:21:47,696 During the ground investigation, a new lead has come to the forefront. 308 00:21:47,696 --> 00:21:53,696 George Knapp, an investigative reporter for KLAS Television in Las Vegas, 309 00:21:53,696 --> 00:21:57,697 has also been looking into the alleged UFO crash in needles. 310 00:21:57,697 --> 00:22:02,698 And during his search, he came face to face with government operatives 311 00:22:02,698 --> 00:22:05,698 that may actually be men in black. 312 00:22:06,698 --> 00:22:11,699 Agents who are allegedly charged with intimidating UFO witnesses 313 00:22:11,699 --> 00:22:14,699 and keeping these types of events out of the public eye. 314 00:22:15,699 --> 00:22:17,699 George Knapp was an eyewitness to these people 315 00:22:17,699 --> 00:22:22,700 and an eyewitness to who they are, where they were going, and what they're doing. 316 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,701 As Bill heads to get this new information, 317 00:22:29,701 --> 00:22:32,701 Ted and Pat shift their focus to Pennsylvania, 318 00:22:32,701 --> 00:22:37,702 where a crash in the small community of Kecksburg is yielding fresh evidence. 319 00:22:38,702 --> 00:22:41,702 The Kecksburg incident is a cornerstone of ufology. 320 00:22:41,702 --> 00:22:43,702 It is Pennsylvania's Roswell. 321 00:22:43,702 --> 00:22:46,703 We know that something crashed from the sky. 322 00:22:46,703 --> 00:22:48,703 It was on TV, it was on the radio. 323 00:22:49,703 --> 00:22:51,703 We have a range of instruments. 324 00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:55,704 If we can find a position that we feel with high confidence could be the crash site, 325 00:22:55,704 --> 00:22:59,704 we can use these instruments to see what we can learn about what's underneath the soil. 326 00:23:02,705 --> 00:23:05,705 As Ted preps a full scale scrutiny of the Kecksburg site, 327 00:23:06,705 --> 00:23:09,705 testimony from the last surviving witnesses could show 328 00:23:09,705 --> 00:23:14,706 that the military has been complicit in a cover up for years. 329 00:23:15,706 --> 00:23:20,707 I stood there, I walked around, looking at it, this thing ain't from here. 330 00:23:25,707 --> 00:23:30,708 In Needles, California, a glowing object crashes into the desert, 331 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:32,708 seemingly out of control. 332 00:23:33,708 --> 00:23:38,709 Witnesses say it is retrieved by a group of military helicopters, 333 00:23:38,709 --> 00:23:41,709 but the incident doesn't end there. 334 00:23:41,709 --> 00:23:45,710 People see unmarked planes landing at the local airport, 335 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:52,710 planes identical to those reportedly used for transport to the top secret military base at Area 51. 336 00:23:53,711 --> 00:23:58,711 But this has all happened before, and not just at Roswell. 337 00:23:58,711 --> 00:24:05,712 Over 40 years ago, something crashed in the sleepy town of Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 338 00:24:05,712 --> 00:24:09,712 But whatever it was, it wasn't out of control. 339 00:24:09,712 --> 00:24:14,713 According to witnesses, it had to be piloted by someone. 340 00:24:15,713 --> 00:24:22,714 On December 9th, 1965, around 4.45pm, something is moving in the sky. 341 00:24:23,714 --> 00:24:25,714 It's a glowing fireball. 342 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:30,715 But many think that this can't be a meteor, because it's moving too slowly. 343 00:24:30,715 --> 00:24:35,716 Whatever it is, the object loses control and crashes. 344 00:24:38,716 --> 00:24:42,716 What immediately transpires bears eerie similarities to what has just happened 345 00:24:42,716 --> 00:24:43,716 in needles. 346 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:45,717 Is it just a coincidence? 347 00:24:45,717 --> 00:24:51,717 Or are these two crashes mirror images of each other 43 years apart? 348 00:24:54,718 --> 00:25:00,718 Bill Burns is meeting with Stan Gordon, the leading investigator of the Kecksburg incident. 349 00:25:00,718 --> 00:25:03,719 He's researched this case for over two decades. 350 00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:08,719 Witnesses out tell us the object turned and came back in towards Kecksburg. 351 00:25:08,719 --> 00:25:12,720 This object came down as though it was making almost like a controlled landing. 352 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,721 And moments after it fell, people reported like a calm of bluish-gray smoke rising up out of the woods that dissipated very quickly. 353 00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:29,722 According to research, hundreds if not thousands of people in Michigan, Ohio and Ontario, Canada, 354 00:25:29,722 --> 00:25:37,723 reportedly witnessed the UFO as it traveled on a trajectory that finally led to its crash landing in New York. 355 00:25:39,723 --> 00:25:44,724 The police departments, the radio and TV station were being barred with calls. 356 00:25:44,724 --> 00:25:51,724 And as it proceeded into Westmoreland County, the media out in this area began to be overwhelmed with reports coming in. 357 00:25:54,725 --> 00:25:57,725 Witnesses agree with Stan Gordon's findings. 358 00:25:57,725 --> 00:26:00,726 This tiny town was consumed by the incident. 359 00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:04,726 No one had ever seen anything like what happened that night. 360 00:26:05,726 --> 00:26:13,727 Pat meets with one witness, Bill Buell Bush, who saw the object fly over and crash in Westmoreland County. 361 00:26:13,727 --> 00:26:15,727 Billy, tell me what happened? 362 00:26:15,727 --> 00:26:20,728 Heard this sizzling noise and then I seen this red farball coming. 363 00:26:22,728 --> 00:26:24,728 Come over like this, just like this. 364 00:26:24,728 --> 00:26:26,729 And I watched it. 365 00:26:26,729 --> 00:26:28,729 And it went up towards the mountain. 366 00:26:28,729 --> 00:26:32,729 It made the turn and come back, a perfect turn and come down. 367 00:26:32,729 --> 00:26:37,730 It just seemed like it was trying to find a place to land. 368 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:40,730 Would you say this thing was under intelligent control then? 369 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:41,730 It had to be. 370 00:26:45,731 --> 00:26:50,731 Buell Bush says that he got in his corvair and drove to what he believed was a downed aircraft. 371 00:26:51,732 --> 00:26:55,732 So I grabbed my flashlight and went down through the woods. 372 00:26:56,732 --> 00:26:58,732 And I could see it down there. 373 00:26:58,732 --> 00:27:00,733 I figured, well, how can they come out there? 374 00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:03,733 There ain't no windows and there are no rivers and nothing on it. 375 00:27:03,733 --> 00:27:04,733 So you got a close look at this thing. 376 00:27:04,733 --> 00:27:06,733 Oh, I was only about eight feet away from it. 377 00:27:06,733 --> 00:27:07,733 Was it smoking? 378 00:27:07,733 --> 00:27:09,734 Oh yeah, it smelled like sulfur. 379 00:27:09,734 --> 00:27:11,734 It smelled like rotten eggs. 380 00:27:11,734 --> 00:27:17,735 Bill Buell Bush really helps us eliminate some of the more prosaic explanations of what this could have been. 381 00:27:17,735 --> 00:27:21,735 The meteor or maybe a crashed airplane or capsule. 382 00:27:21,735 --> 00:27:25,736 He saw this fireball coming down in the sky and turning. 383 00:27:25,736 --> 00:27:29,736 He specifically said that this had to be under intelligent control. 384 00:27:32,736 --> 00:27:36,737 Soon after, emergency personnel reached the crash site 385 00:27:36,737 --> 00:27:40,737 and volunteer fireman Jim Romanski is one of them. 386 00:27:40,737 --> 00:27:43,738 He is also surprised by what he sees. 387 00:27:43,738 --> 00:27:49,738 I was shocked because I was preparing for my stop airplane. 388 00:27:49,738 --> 00:27:55,739 And here was this humongous piece of metal buried into this drainage ditch. 389 00:27:55,739 --> 00:27:58,739 Can you describe exactly how it was buried? 390 00:27:58,739 --> 00:28:00,740 We're talking nighttime, first of all. 391 00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:05,740 We're talking piles of brush around this thing because it comes flying down through the trees. 392 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:08,741 Romanski says the UFO was acorn shaped 393 00:28:08,741 --> 00:28:13,741 and had a ring of strange markings that encircled the entire object. 394 00:28:13,741 --> 00:28:15,741 This description is rare. 395 00:28:15,741 --> 00:28:20,742 Unlike other reported UFO shapes such as triangles and discs. 396 00:28:22,742 --> 00:28:24,742 And there's more. 397 00:28:24,742 --> 00:28:28,743 Strange hieroglyphics are reminiscent of another case. 398 00:28:28,743 --> 00:28:35,744 The Bentwater's UFO that was reported to have landed near a British military base in 1980 399 00:28:35,744 --> 00:28:40,744 displayed similar markings to those the Kecksburg witnesses describe. 400 00:28:40,744 --> 00:28:43,745 Have you ever seen anything like this ever in your life? 401 00:28:43,745 --> 00:28:46,745 No, absolutely not. 402 00:28:46,745 --> 00:28:50,746 My impression after I looked at this thing, I stood there and I thought about it 403 00:28:50,746 --> 00:28:53,746 and I walked around looking at it. 404 00:28:53,746 --> 00:28:56,746 This thing ain't from here. 405 00:29:00,747 --> 00:29:06,747 And then a development that would repeat itself 43 years later in needles. 406 00:29:06,747 --> 00:29:11,748 Within hours of the crash, dozens of military personnel 407 00:29:11,748 --> 00:29:15,748 including Army and Air Force, arrive on the scene. 408 00:29:15,748 --> 00:29:21,749 They reportedly cordon off the area, preventing the public from reaching the crash site. 409 00:29:21,749 --> 00:29:25,750 Inside this restricted zone, they are searching. 410 00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:35,751 Bob Gatti, a reporter with the Greensburg Tribune, was dispatched to the crash scene 411 00:29:35,751 --> 00:29:40,751 and he distinctly remembers the intimidating military presence. 412 00:29:40,751 --> 00:29:47,752 When I got there, there were probably at least a dozen military personnel 413 00:29:47,752 --> 00:29:51,753 in addition to Pennsylvania State Police officers. 414 00:29:51,753 --> 00:29:55,753 I said, I need to go down there. They said, there's nothing there. 415 00:29:55,753 --> 00:29:59,754 I said, well, if there's nothing there, why can't I go in there? 416 00:30:03,754 --> 00:30:09,755 Gatti tells Pat that the military, not the state police, were clearly in charge of the scene. 417 00:30:10,755 --> 00:30:15,756 I've never experienced a time in a civilian situation where the military had come in 418 00:30:15,756 --> 00:30:18,756 and taken control of an accident site. 419 00:30:18,756 --> 00:30:21,756 Why would the Army be there? 420 00:30:23,756 --> 00:30:26,757 We were stopped by a military. You heard the bolt snap on the rifle 421 00:30:26,757 --> 00:30:31,757 and I stopped in my tracks and Ron stopped and, you know, we talked to him for a second. 422 00:30:31,757 --> 00:30:34,758 He told us to get out, get back to where we came from. 423 00:30:34,758 --> 00:30:39,758 He looked at me and poured his finger at me and said, nobody goes down in there with us. 424 00:30:40,758 --> 00:30:47,759 Witnesses tell Stan Gordon that later in the evening, they see a large flatbed truck drive into the crash area. 425 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:54,760 Within the hour, the truck drives from the site in a hurry, carrying something under a tarp. 426 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,761 If you would have walked in front of it, they would never have stopped for you. 427 00:31:00,761 --> 00:31:06,762 Gordon says that during his own investigation, Jim Romansky, Bill Buobush and others 428 00:31:06,762 --> 00:31:10,762 led him to a spot they said was the crash site. 429 00:31:10,762 --> 00:31:16,763 These interviews were conducted independently and each witness led him to the exact same spot. 430 00:31:16,763 --> 00:31:21,763 I'm very hopeful tomorrow we can find the exact location that was taken to 20-some years ago. 431 00:31:21,763 --> 00:31:24,764 It sounds like there was some sort of crash. 432 00:31:24,764 --> 00:31:28,764 I can bring in ground penetrating radar and see if we can find anything that hasn't been found before. 433 00:31:28,764 --> 00:31:33,765 Not only does Stan have multiple corroborating witnesses who pinpoint the location, 434 00:31:33,765 --> 00:31:38,765 but also it sounds like there's a very good chance we'll be able to find some sort of debris. 435 00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:48,766 Eye witnesses and investigators have seen this site before, but never with technology like this. 436 00:31:48,766 --> 00:31:54,767 You think a signature like this might be consistent with a signature made by a crashed vehicle? Is that possible? 437 00:31:54,767 --> 00:31:55,767 Yeah, that's possible. 438 00:31:55,767 --> 00:32:04,768 And across the country, the Needle's case breaks wide open with reports of officials that could be the infamous men in black. 439 00:32:04,768 --> 00:32:07,769 They are legitimately federal agents. 440 00:32:10,769 --> 00:32:14,770 It was something other than this world. 441 00:32:14,770 --> 00:32:23,771 In December 1965, a flaming object is reported falling through the sky in Canada, Michigan and Ohio. 442 00:32:23,771 --> 00:32:33,772 In these locations, some claim that debris falls to Earth, that sonic booms are heard, and that a seismograph records the impact. 443 00:32:33,772 --> 00:32:36,772 But none of this evidence ever surfaces. 444 00:32:36,772 --> 00:32:43,773 It is only in the small Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg where anything real is verified. 445 00:32:45,773 --> 00:32:52,774 Several witnesses report that in this ravine, an acorn-shaped object with strange markings crashed. 446 00:32:53,774 --> 00:33:00,775 And it is this location that has become the investigation's focal point. 447 00:33:00,775 --> 00:33:10,776 The team will hike in with researchers Stan Gordon, geologist Steve Kite and Pete Hutchinson, an electromagnetic surveyist. 448 00:33:11,776 --> 00:33:22,778 Gordon compares the terrain with a photograph he took here in 1985 and believes this is the spot where the UFO impacted. 449 00:33:22,778 --> 00:33:27,778 Well, you have the photo. Does this area here look like it might match? 450 00:33:27,778 --> 00:33:29,778 Oh, Ted, this is the best match we've seen all day. 451 00:33:29,778 --> 00:33:35,779 I think the photograph that we have here was taken 5, 10 feet behind us looking in that direction. 452 00:33:35,779 --> 00:33:38,779 We have these, what look like, one or two fence posts. 453 00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:42,780 Looks like some barbed wire and a fence post here. 454 00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:46,780 And it looks like another one right up there. 455 00:33:51,781 --> 00:34:01,782 The fence posts and Stan Gordon's matching photograph taken alongside eyewitnesses all point to this spot as the site of the Kecksburg crash. 456 00:34:02,782 --> 00:34:10,783 But for years, debunkers claim that what caused the damage in this ravine was a Russian space probe. 457 00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:19,784 The shape and size of the Cosmos 96 probe, originally slated to reach Venus, was similar to what eyewitnesses described. 458 00:34:19,784 --> 00:34:24,785 But recently, even this explanation was thrown out. 459 00:34:25,785 --> 00:34:29,785 According to NASA's National Space Science Data Center, quote, 460 00:34:29,785 --> 00:34:41,787 U.S. Air Force tracking data on Cosmos 96 also indicate the spacecraft orbit decayed earlier than the 4.43 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the 9th of December. 461 00:34:45,787 --> 00:34:49,788 But NASA's interest in the crash extends further back. 462 00:34:50,788 --> 00:34:57,789 At this very site in 1965, witnesses saw NASA officials alongside the military. 463 00:34:57,789 --> 00:35:03,789 I see NASA there with their uniform on, their patch on the side, they had that white loon runes on. 464 00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:13,791 And this all ties back to Roswell, a secretive approach to a crash. 465 00:35:14,791 --> 00:35:23,792 Something taken from the site, on board a flatbed truck covered by a tarp, and under cover of night. 466 00:35:24,792 --> 00:35:28,792 But after all these years, could they have missed something? 467 00:35:32,793 --> 00:35:38,794 Pete Hutchison here has an array of scientific instrumentation for scanning the Earth around the site. 468 00:35:38,794 --> 00:35:49,795 We're going to look at the architecture of the site to see if anything is still here that is evidence of a possible crash 43 years ago. 469 00:35:54,795 --> 00:36:00,796 Pete Hutchison and his assistant, Brian, begin the electromagnetic scanning of the ground. 470 00:36:01,796 --> 00:36:09,797 The tool emits electromagnetic energy into the soil, and moisture carries the current, which is sensitive to metal. 471 00:36:10,797 --> 00:36:15,798 So we'll be able to find any metals and then also any anomalous soil conductivities? 472 00:36:15,798 --> 00:36:16,798 Correct. 473 00:36:16,798 --> 00:36:19,798 Okay, well why don't we put the tool to work? 474 00:36:23,799 --> 00:36:27,799 During the search, the scanner picks up some metal conductivity. 475 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,800 But the size and identity of the metal is unknown without further information processing. 476 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,801 Significant anomalies appear on the two-dimensional map. 477 00:36:42,801 --> 00:36:46,802 That red indicates a heightened level, just how strong is that? 478 00:36:46,802 --> 00:36:49,802 That's fairly decent for this area. There's definitely metal there. 479 00:36:49,802 --> 00:36:52,802 So you're saying that metal is naturally occurring metal? 480 00:36:52,802 --> 00:36:55,803 It comes from something other than what's naturally occurring in this area. 481 00:36:55,803 --> 00:36:59,803 You think a signature like this might be consistent with a crashed vehicle? Is that possible? 482 00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:01,803 Yeah, that's possible. 483 00:37:05,804 --> 00:37:10,804 According to Hutchison, what makes this unusual is the high concentration. 484 00:37:10,804 --> 00:37:15,805 This amount of metal is not typical in this area of Pennsylvania. 485 00:37:15,805 --> 00:37:20,806 Hutchison suggests that the team dig in this area to determine the source. 486 00:37:22,806 --> 00:37:26,806 This science only tells us where to look, and the next step is to go in there and investigate. 487 00:37:26,806 --> 00:37:28,806 Physically dig it and do an intrusive test. 488 00:37:28,806 --> 00:37:29,807 An archaeological dig. 489 00:37:29,807 --> 00:37:31,807 An archaeological dig, yes, exactly. 490 00:37:35,807 --> 00:37:41,808 The team needs to expose the area before dark, so Pat joins to assist on the dig. 491 00:37:41,808 --> 00:37:48,809 When the soil is uncovered, Pete uses the ground penetrating radar to look for a specific metal source. 492 00:37:48,809 --> 00:37:50,809 Hey, check this out. 493 00:37:50,809 --> 00:37:56,810 It starts here, starts right there, and it ends right there. 494 00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:59,810 It's not natural. That is definitely not natural. 495 00:38:00,810 --> 00:38:05,811 With the sunlight fading, the dig will have to wait until morning. 496 00:38:05,811 --> 00:38:09,811 What is the source of the metal buried at this alleged crash site? 497 00:38:09,811 --> 00:38:14,812 I don't know what's down there, but I can't wait to start digging and turn up some answers. 498 00:38:21,813 --> 00:38:30,814 In the investigation into the alleged Kecksburg UFO crash, ground penetrating radar has revealed an anomalous source of metal 499 00:38:30,814 --> 00:38:36,814 at the exact spot where eyewitnesses claimed the UFO crashed in 1965. 500 00:38:39,815 --> 00:38:45,816 The team has exposed the site and are ready to continue digging to discover the source of the metal. 501 00:38:46,816 --> 00:38:52,816 But within minutes, the investigation suddenly hits an impenetrable wall. 502 00:38:56,817 --> 00:39:03,818 The GPR told us that you've got metallic conductivity, and I'm hitting bedrock. 503 00:39:03,818 --> 00:39:10,818 Now, either the object skimmed along the surface or the metal would have to be under the bedrock, which is totally unlikely. 504 00:39:11,819 --> 00:39:17,819 Maybe this thing did come across this area and left some kind of a residue along the stone. 505 00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:29,821 But upon closer examination, the bedrock itself is the reason for the anomalous hits. 506 00:39:29,821 --> 00:39:33,821 According to Pete, this bedrock contains iron. 507 00:39:34,821 --> 00:39:40,822 The rocks themselves could be so heavily ferrous that they're giving a false positive to the GPR. 508 00:39:40,822 --> 00:39:44,823 So whatever hits we got may have nothing to do with the crash. 509 00:39:51,823 --> 00:40:00,824 Despite the bedrock's false hits, the overwhelming witness testimony and the corroborating interviews makes the site compelling. 510 00:40:03,825 --> 00:40:06,825 This is where everyone agrees the object came down. 511 00:40:06,825 --> 00:40:11,826 And there was, according to all eyewitnesses, a military presence hauling this craft away. 512 00:40:11,826 --> 00:40:15,826 We didn't find anything today, but an object crashed right here in Kexpert. 513 00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:23,827 Bill now turns back to the Needle's crash. 514 00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:28,828 George Knapp, an investigative reporter for KLAS Television in Las Vegas, 515 00:40:28,828 --> 00:40:33,828 has a surprising lead on the helicopters allegedly seen after the crash. 516 00:40:34,828 --> 00:40:39,829 We were working on a story about black helicopters before we started working on this Needle story. 517 00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:45,830 We figured out who they were, and they worked for this very interesting outfit at a Fort Campbell, Kentucky. 518 00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:46,830 The night stalkers. 519 00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:48,830 Task Force 160. 520 00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:54,831 The night stalkers, or Task Force 160, is a special ops aviation regiment, 521 00:40:54,831 --> 00:40:58,831 and it requires a secret clearance for all of its members. 522 00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:04,832 When George Knapp was investigating what group of black helicopters might have been operating in Needle's California, 523 00:41:04,832 --> 00:41:14,833 he discovered they were the night stalkers, the very same group that was transporting a flaming object in the Cache Landrum incident in Texas in 1980. 524 00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:23,834 The Cache Landrum incident, like Needle's, involved military helicopters pursuing and removing a strange glowing object, 525 00:41:23,834 --> 00:41:29,835 which led to three witnesses developing strange blisters and radiation sickness. 526 00:41:30,835 --> 00:41:35,836 But Knapp's investigation digs further and discovers military personnel 527 00:41:35,836 --> 00:41:39,836 that were working in Needle's on unnamed top secret projects. 528 00:41:40,836 --> 00:41:46,837 Could these be the elusive men in black reported by many UFO witnesses? 529 00:41:46,837 --> 00:41:50,837 These guys were driving back to Las Vegas from Needle's. 530 00:41:50,837 --> 00:41:53,838 Pretty soon they come up and they drive up right next to us, the engine running, 531 00:41:53,838 --> 00:41:55,838 and they get out and start talking to us. 532 00:41:55,838 --> 00:41:56,838 They said they're federal agents. 533 00:41:56,838 --> 00:42:00,839 They flashed a badge, and sure enough, they are legitimately federal agents. 534 00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:03,839 They work for an agency I had never heard of before. 535 00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,839 They transport nuclear weapons. 536 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,840 But the specifics of why these agents are in Needle's are still unknown. 537 00:42:17,841 --> 00:42:18,841 They're highly trained. 538 00:42:18,841 --> 00:42:20,841 They're a dangerous group of people. 539 00:42:20,841 --> 00:42:21,841 These guys are commandos. 540 00:42:21,841 --> 00:42:23,841 They carry all kinds of weapons. 541 00:42:23,841 --> 00:42:25,841 They're very tough customers. 542 00:42:25,841 --> 00:42:29,842 I'm not sure that they're going to be happy that they've got this much attention. 543 00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:35,843 Despite their presence, Knapp doesn't believe that these agents are men in black, 544 00:42:35,843 --> 00:42:38,843 or that they are involved with the nearby crash. 545 00:42:38,843 --> 00:42:41,843 Yet in both the Needle's and Kecksburg crashes, 546 00:42:41,843 --> 00:42:47,844 eyewitnesses reported seeing large objects being hauled away by military vehicles. 547 00:42:49,844 --> 00:42:52,845 If this agency is not involved, who is? 548 00:42:52,845 --> 00:42:56,845 What we're finding out is that the stories of people who say there was a story 549 00:42:56,845 --> 00:43:01,846 of a strange federal government agency in black SUVs traveling in Needle's 550 00:43:01,846 --> 00:43:06,846 right around the day after that event, those stories are true. 551 00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:13,847 Whatever crashed, Area 51 planes were seen in the vicinity. 552 00:43:13,847 --> 00:43:18,848 The helicopters that retrieved the object may have been involved in another case, 553 00:43:18,848 --> 00:43:21,848 where people were exposed to radiation. 554 00:43:21,848 --> 00:43:26,849 And now, federal agents in the Needle's area, by their own admission, 555 00:43:26,849 --> 00:43:30,849 have some association with nuclear weapons. 556 00:43:30,849 --> 00:43:35,850 Could this crash involve some craft that uses nuclear technology, 557 00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:41,850 emits radiation, and be so top secret that its own base is Area 51? 558 00:43:45,851 --> 00:43:50,851 What's missing is hard physical evidence at an action site. 559 00:43:52,852 --> 00:43:56,852 We know that there was military involvement suppressing the information. 560 00:43:56,852 --> 00:44:00,853 They move in, they fill the air with misinformation, 561 00:44:00,853 --> 00:44:04,853 and then they deny that anything happened. 562 00:44:06,853 --> 00:44:09,854 With sites cleansed of all signs of a crash, 563 00:44:09,854 --> 00:44:13,854 could these incidents have national security implications? 564 00:44:13,854 --> 00:44:16,855 Whatever is falling out of the sky, 565 00:44:16,855 --> 00:44:21,855 the military seems intent on keeping it secret.